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		<title>By: Apjmartin67</title>
		<link>http://outsidek9.com/2009/07/13-year-commitment/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Apjmartin67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy my 3 year old german short hair rescue. I once had a Weimaraner who I bought from a breeder in Arizona. This was my first dog. I always say to myself, If I had not bought him he would of eventually end up in Rescue (to hyper). Our second Weim was a rescue dog. She was attacked by another female Dog. We got her for free. So now all all Dogs are rescue. I dont look down on those who buy from breeders. Because they are getting a dog that that they need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy my 3 year old german short hair rescue. I once had a Weimaraner who I bought from a breeder in Arizona. This was my first dog. I always say to myself, If I had not bought him he would of eventually end up in Rescue (to hyper). Our second Weim was a rescue dog. She was attacked by another female Dog. We got her for free. So now all all Dogs are rescue. I dont look down on those who buy from breeders. Because they are getting a dog that that they need.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://outsidek9.com/2009/07/13-year-commitment/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that there are two main &quot;categories&quot; of dogs.  One is the &quot;professional&quot; or working dog that will have a specific job, such as a service animal, hunting companion, or other type of K-9 work.  The other is the &quot;companion&quot; dog - the dog that someone gets just to have a dog - have someone to take on hikes, take snowshoeing, hang around the house with, go jogging with.  In my opinion, it is perfectly justified to purchase a working dog from a breeder; as Schaffer points out, training one of these dogs costs thousands of dollars and hours and both the dog and the owner will be much happier in that relationship if the dog has the background that will suit him to perform well in his job.  However, I am a firm believer that anyone looking for a companion dog should check with local shelters or a site like petfinder.com.  Any dog is trainable when it comes to basic obedience and behavioral problems can be overcome with patience and proper training (except in the most severe cases).  It is important that the prospective owner be honest with themselves when chosing to take on a dog with behavioral issues because they require TIME and PATIENCE to heal.  However, the vast majority of &quot;shelter pups&quot; are perfectly happy, healthy, intelligent animals that are just looking for a home and some love - and they will return it thousands of times over.  I own a purebred and a shelter pup - they are both amazing pups.  I bought the purebred before I was aware of the enormous problem of shelter dogs and I will continue adopting dogs as mine are primarily companions.  That&#039;s just my two cents.  Like Schaffer says, it&#039;s a 13 year commitment so be honest with yourself about what you&#039;ll be expecting from your dog and doing with him.  Sure, it&#039;s great to be able to say you&#039;ve got a $2,000 dog whose ancestors retrieved the first duck ever shot by a hunter, blah, blah, blah but unless you&#039;re going to be duck hunting, you probably don&#039;t need that kind of dog - in that case, it&#039;s even greater to say you rescued your little guy (or gal).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that there are two main &#8220;categories&#8221; of dogs.  One is the &#8220;professional&#8221; or working dog that will have a specific job, such as a service animal, hunting companion, or other type of K-9 work.  The other is the &#8220;companion&#8221; dog &#8211; the dog that someone gets just to have a dog &#8211; have someone to take on hikes, take snowshoeing, hang around the house with, go jogging with.  In my opinion, it is perfectly justified to purchase a working dog from a breeder; as Schaffer points out, training one of these dogs costs thousands of dollars and hours and both the dog and the owner will be much happier in that relationship if the dog has the background that will suit him to perform well in his job.  However, I am a firm believer that anyone looking for a companion dog should check with local shelters or a site like petfinder.com.  Any dog is trainable when it comes to basic obedience and behavioral problems can be overcome with patience and proper training (except in the most severe cases).  It is important that the prospective owner be honest with themselves when chosing to take on a dog with behavioral issues because they require TIME and PATIENCE to heal.  However, the vast majority of &#8220;shelter pups&#8221; are perfectly happy, healthy, intelligent animals that are just looking for a home and some love &#8211; and they will return it thousands of times over.  I own a purebred and a shelter pup &#8211; they are both amazing pups.  I bought the purebred before I was aware of the enormous problem of shelter dogs and I will continue adopting dogs as mine are primarily companions.  That&#8217;s just my two cents.  Like Schaffer says, it&#8217;s a 13 year commitment so be honest with yourself about what you&#8217;ll be expecting from your dog and doing with him.  Sure, it&#8217;s great to be able to say you&#8217;ve got a $2,000 dog whose ancestors retrieved the first duck ever shot by a hunter, blah, blah, blah but unless you&#8217;re going to be duck hunting, you probably don&#8217;t need that kind of dog &#8211; in that case, it&#8217;s even greater to say you rescued your little guy (or gal).</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
		<link>http://outsidek9.com/2009/07/13-year-commitment/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just want to commend Lauren on offering a very balanced perspective above.  She offers a thoughtful response to the challenging issue of rescue vs. &#039;start from scratch&#039; with a pup from a breeder.  

I share many of her thoughts on dog ownership.  I also have purebred black labs.  We&#039;re on our &quot;second generation&quot; if you will (dogs #3 &amp; 4 for my husband and I), of dogs purchased from thoroughly researched and well-regarded breeders (who by the way would chuckle at the idea they&#039;re making a profit off their endeavors!).  

For us, this is the right choice - we enjoy having them in our lives from the start, seeing them grow and helping to shape them into the adult dogs we cherish.  

However, I&#039;ve also been active in rescue, serving on the board of directors for a lab rescue organization. I&#039;ve fostered several dogs, done transport, adopter screening and pretty much everything else associated with rescue. Unfortunately one of the reasons rescues exist is because of people&#039;s ill-thought out reasons for getting a dog, regardless of where the dog came from.  I chose to get involved with rescue precisely because my dogs came from a breeder - I know they&#039;re lucky to have the good lives they do and figured I could help other dogs, who are not so lucky, by working with a rescue organization.  

To Lauren&#039;s point above, the important thing is to make your decision to add a dog to your life wisely and with as much information and consideration as possible.  It is a long commitment (one hopes 13 years!) and wherever/however you choose to obtain your dog, make the right choice for you.  The reward you get in the form of the love and companionship of your canine friend is priceless.  

PS Lauren - I met a puppy last night who&#039;s part of the &quot;Lucky Pup&quot; rescue here in Maine, about to be placed in his forever home.  He&#039;s a wonderful little mixed bag mutt who&#039;s going to be a great member of my friend&#039;s family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to commend Lauren on offering a very balanced perspective above.  She offers a thoughtful response to the challenging issue of rescue vs. &#8217;start from scratch&#8217; with a pup from a breeder.  </p>
<p>I share many of her thoughts on dog ownership.  I also have purebred black labs.  We&#8217;re on our &#8220;second generation&#8221; if you will (dogs #3 &amp; 4 for my husband and I), of dogs purchased from thoroughly researched and well-regarded breeders (who by the way would chuckle at the idea they&#8217;re making a profit off their endeavors!).  </p>
<p>For us, this is the right choice &#8211; we enjoy having them in our lives from the start, seeing them grow and helping to shape them into the adult dogs we cherish.  </p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ve also been active in rescue, serving on the board of directors for a lab rescue organization. I&#8217;ve fostered several dogs, done transport, adopter screening and pretty much everything else associated with rescue. Unfortunately one of the reasons rescues exist is because of people&#8217;s ill-thought out reasons for getting a dog, regardless of where the dog came from.  I chose to get involved with rescue precisely because my dogs came from a breeder &#8211; I know they&#8217;re lucky to have the good lives they do and figured I could help other dogs, who are not so lucky, by working with a rescue organization.  </p>
<p>To Lauren&#8217;s point above, the important thing is to make your decision to add a dog to your life wisely and with as much information and consideration as possible.  It is a long commitment (one hopes 13 years!) and wherever/however you choose to obtain your dog, make the right choice for you.  The reward you get in the form of the love and companionship of your canine friend is priceless.  </p>
<p>PS Lauren &#8211; I met a puppy last night who&#8217;s part of the &#8220;Lucky Pup&#8221; rescue here in Maine, about to be placed in his forever home.  He&#8217;s a wonderful little mixed bag mutt who&#8217;s going to be a great member of my friend&#8217;s family.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev &#38; Nug</title>
		<link>http://outsidek9.com/2009/07/13-year-commitment/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev &#38; Nug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been with my rescue pup for coming on four years now and don&#039;t regret a minute of it - the initial outlay was cheap but the unexpected emergency surgery was not. But we&#039;ve come through it and the experience has been priceless and he&#039;s been worth it. No matter the cost - its the experiences we&#039;ve had together that define our relationship.

More to the point - dog adoption vs buying hides a larger story nobody wants to talk about - human population and child adoption vs popping out new ones all over the place and IVF treatments. I think that tells the more telling story on whether or not people can be truly altruistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been with my rescue pup for coming on four years now and don&#8217;t regret a minute of it &#8211; the initial outlay was cheap but the unexpected emergency surgery was not. But we&#8217;ve come through it and the experience has been priceless and he&#8217;s been worth it. No matter the cost &#8211; its the experiences we&#8217;ve had together that define our relationship.</p>
<p>More to the point &#8211; dog adoption vs buying hides a larger story nobody wants to talk about &#8211; human population and child adoption vs popping out new ones all over the place and IVF treatments. I think that tells the more telling story on whether or not people can be truly altruistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://outsidek9.com/2009/07/13-year-commitment/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there!  Great post.  I have two dogs.  One is a pit mix from a high kill shelter in Alabama (where I am from as well).  She cost me $55.00 and was spayed, fully vaccinated and very cute!  I love her very much and I pay homage to her shelter heritage in many ways.  I have personally provided transport for 13 dogs in 2 years from my hometown to my current residence in Maine, whereupon they were placed into loving homes through our local no-kill shelter.  Just today, I did a home visit for Lucky Pup Rescue here in Maine and they were approved...another life saved!

I also am the proud guardian/owner (along with my husband) of a $1200 Wildrose Labrador.  He is fantastic and calm and beautiful and I love him just as much as my rescue.  

It&#039;s possible to be pro rescue and still hold a pure bred dog in high esteem as well.   When humans go to extremes, they tend to isolate people.  I&#039;ve been called a &quot;rescue snob&quot; in the past and I&#039;m able to say that I have a dog from a breeder.  I&#039;ve also been bashed by &quot;rescue snobs&quot; for having a breeder dog and I&#039;m able to say that I have a rescue from a high kill Southern shelter (which is tres chic in my area).
If people are too far in either direction you lose the interest of potentially excellent dog owners and that is the real sin.  I know people who are afraid to get a dog because they don&#039;t know how the two sides will react.   

I didn&#039;t make these dog decisions willy nilly.  I knew what I wanted and expected of my canine companion and my husband did too.  We ended up with the best of both worlds and I wish more people could be open minded in both ways.  There is nothing fundamentally wrong in acquiring a dog to be your companion.  The only requirement is that you love and respect your dog.  The more you focus on his or her origins, the less time you have to love them.  

I don&#039;t want to waste any time that would be better spentI rescuing dogs and loving and training my own. 

Let&#039;s all get back to enjoying Man&#039;s Best friend and get off our pulpits.  

Lauren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there!  Great post.  I have two dogs.  One is a pit mix from a high kill shelter in Alabama (where I am from as well).  She cost me $55.00 and was spayed, fully vaccinated and very cute!  I love her very much and I pay homage to her shelter heritage in many ways.  I have personally provided transport for 13 dogs in 2 years from my hometown to my current residence in Maine, whereupon they were placed into loving homes through our local no-kill shelter.  Just today, I did a home visit for Lucky Pup Rescue here in Maine and they were approved&#8230;another life saved!</p>
<p>I also am the proud guardian/owner (along with my husband) of a $1200 Wildrose Labrador.  He is fantastic and calm and beautiful and I love him just as much as my rescue.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible to be pro rescue and still hold a pure bred dog in high esteem as well.   When humans go to extremes, they tend to isolate people.  I&#8217;ve been called a &#8220;rescue snob&#8221; in the past and I&#8217;m able to say that I have a dog from a breeder.  I&#8217;ve also been bashed by &#8220;rescue snobs&#8221; for having a breeder dog and I&#8217;m able to say that I have a rescue from a high kill Southern shelter (which is tres chic in my area).<br />
If people are too far in either direction you lose the interest of potentially excellent dog owners and that is the real sin.  I know people who are afraid to get a dog because they don&#8217;t know how the two sides will react.   </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t make these dog decisions willy nilly.  I knew what I wanted and expected of my canine companion and my husband did too.  We ended up with the best of both worlds and I wish more people could be open minded in both ways.  There is nothing fundamentally wrong in acquiring a dog to be your companion.  The only requirement is that you love and respect your dog.  The more you focus on his or her origins, the less time you have to love them.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to waste any time that would be better spentI rescuing dogs and loving and training my own. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s all get back to enjoying Man&#8217;s Best friend and get off our pulpits.  </p>
<p>Lauren</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://outsidek9.com/2009/07/13-year-commitment/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think anyone who is thinking of buying a dog should first visit their local shelter. I&#039;ve heard a lot of people say that they can&#039;t go there....it&#039;s too sad. And they&#039;re right, it is sad. I volunteer at a shelter, and the dogs I walk are smart, funny, and would make the most loyal pets. It is beyond frustrating to me that a person would go out and spend ($1200!) on a dog that has been bred for profit. And sure, buying a dog from a breeder is much better than feeding money into the horrific puppy mill industry. But breeders are still making dogs for money. 
I love that my two shepherd mixes look nothing like any other dog I&#039;ve seen. I love to see them play and wag their tails - it took a while for one of our dogs to show any happiness. Sure, they came to us with some issues. But watching them recover and become part of our family has been an experience that has changed my life. And the fact that one of our dogs had been grossly abused by humans, and still loves every person she meets, is testament to the beautiful nature of dogs. As humans, adopting is the least we can do.
Please visit your local shelter or check out petfinder.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think anyone who is thinking of buying a dog should first visit their local shelter. I&#8217;ve heard a lot of people say that they can&#8217;t go there&#8230;.it&#8217;s too sad. And they&#8217;re right, it is sad. I volunteer at a shelter, and the dogs I walk are smart, funny, and would make the most loyal pets. It is beyond frustrating to me that a person would go out and spend ($1200!) on a dog that has been bred for profit. And sure, buying a dog from a breeder is much better than feeding money into the horrific puppy mill industry. But breeders are still making dogs for money.<br />
I love that my two shepherd mixes look nothing like any other dog I&#8217;ve seen. I love to see them play and wag their tails &#8211; it took a while for one of our dogs to show any happiness. Sure, they came to us with some issues. But watching them recover and become part of our family has been an experience that has changed my life. And the fact that one of our dogs had been grossly abused by humans, and still loves every person she meets, is testament to the beautiful nature of dogs. As humans, adopting is the least we can do.<br />
Please visit your local shelter or check out petfinder.com.</p>
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